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		<title>By: jeremiah liang</title>
		<link>http://www.themicahmandate.org/2008/12/the-unforgiveable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremiah liang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The existence of God is something which cannot be proven by reason alone. As the philosopher Dr Charles Taylor said: &quot;This (religious belief) is something that you cannot ultimately prove except by impressing people with the fact that you have a more intelligent interpretation all the time.&quot; 

However, pls read this article that points at the circumstantial evidence supporting the truths or non-truths of Jesus and the Bible:

http://jeremiahliang.blogspot.com/2009/03/five-ways-to-ascertain-truth-of-bible.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The existence of God is something which cannot be proven by reason alone. As the philosopher Dr Charles Taylor said: &#8220;This (religious belief) is something that you cannot ultimately prove except by impressing people with the fact that you have a more intelligent interpretation all the time.&#8221; </p>
<p>However, pls read this article that points at the circumstantial evidence supporting the truths or non-truths of Jesus and the Bible:</p>
<p><a href="http://jeremiahliang.blogspot.com/2009/03/five-ways-to-ascertain-truth-of-bible.html" rel="nofollow">http://jeremiahliang.blogspot.com/2009/03/five-ways-to-ascertain-truth-of-bible.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.themicahmandate.org/2008/12/the-unforgiveable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, you can change your IP using Firefox.</description>
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		<title>By: kedahan63</title>
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		<dc:creator>kedahan63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, guys....just what is the problem here?  Jesus or the two mamats?  BTW, what&#039;s the link between them anyway?  Mamat 1 &amp; 2 had &quot;condemned&quot; an honest guy for sticking to his guns/principles while Jesus was referring to anyone who says bad things about His Father&#039;s teachings.  In my non-christian view, two totally different worlds, bros!  One&#039;s irrelevant and the other, too complex (&amp; sensitive) to discuss without getting emotional!  You might be wasting your cyber-breath railing against the Aaamno ******!  Bob Kee is right, Mamats 1 &amp; 2 could just be looking for more &quot;ammo&quot; to throw innocents into Kamunting, using the cyber-****** (to call them troopers would be to drag the real troopers down to their non-human levels)

regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, guys&#8230;.just what is the problem here?  Jesus or the two mamats?  BTW, what&#8217;s the link between them anyway?  Mamat 1 &amp; 2 had &#8220;condemned&#8221; an honest guy for sticking to his guns/principles while Jesus was referring to anyone who says bad things about His Father&#8217;s teachings.  In my non-christian view, two totally different worlds, bros!  One&#8217;s irrelevant and the other, too complex (&amp; sensitive) to discuss without getting emotional!  You might be wasting your cyber-breath railing against the Aaamno ******!  Bob Kee is right, Mamats 1 &amp; 2 could just be looking for more &#8220;ammo&#8221; to throw innocents into Kamunting, using the cyber-****** (to call them troopers would be to drag the real troopers down to their non-human levels)</p>
<p>regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kee</title>
		<link>http://www.themicahmandate.org/2008/12/the-unforgiveable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One should also be aware of the presence of people who deliberately provoke to elicit a reaction. There used to be a rash of them known as cyber troopers who go around impersonating IDs (including one that impersonated the late Bishop Julius Paul in my blog) and posting some of the most bigoted stuff you&#039;d ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One should also be aware of the presence of people who deliberately provoke to elicit a reaction. There used to be a rash of them known as cyber troopers who go around impersonating IDs (including one that impersonated the late Bishop Julius Paul in my blog) and posting some of the most bigoted stuff you&#8217;d ever read.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, this is not on the piece but on the comments to the piece.

I&#039;m so tired of atheists. They are as bad as those types who stand at bus stops passing out church flyers and harassing commuters (sorry to those readers who have done this).

We say there is a God, they can&#039;t prove there is no God. And the greatest scientific scholars, Einstein included, believed in a God. So i don&#039;t understand laying down science as a means of proving there is no God, because it indicates to me and to many other scientific scholars the very opposite.

Atheism is as much a faith as any other religion. And this new-wave of Malaysian atheists shove it down anyone and everyone&#039;s throat as much as any other religious fanatic. Rukun Negara? No cannot, coz they don&#039;t believe in God. Negaraku has the word &quot;Tuhan&quot;? No cannot because they don&#039;t believe in God. Don&#039;t believe in God then don&#039;t sing Negaraku and don&#039;t say the Rukun lah! Talking about being secure in one&#039;s faith...

What&#039;s frightening is they come across as narrow-minded, and with as blinkered an eye-view as any fundamentalist of whatever religion out there. 

But tell them this, and they splutter and spew and get upset.

As I said, talk about being secure in one&#039;s faith...

These fundamentalist atheists... someone should write an article on this actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, this is not on the piece but on the comments to the piece.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so tired of atheists. They are as bad as those types who stand at bus stops passing out church flyers and harassing commuters (sorry to those readers who have done this).</p>
<p>We say there is a God, they can&#8217;t prove there is no God. And the greatest scientific scholars, Einstein included, believed in a God. So i don&#8217;t understand laying down science as a means of proving there is no God, because it indicates to me and to many other scientific scholars the very opposite.</p>
<p>Atheism is as much a faith as any other religion. And this new-wave of Malaysian atheists shove it down anyone and everyone&#8217;s throat as much as any other religious fanatic. Rukun Negara? No cannot, coz they don&#8217;t believe in God. Negaraku has the word &#8220;Tuhan&#8221;? No cannot because they don&#8217;t believe in God. Don&#8217;t believe in God then don&#8217;t sing Negaraku and don&#8217;t say the Rukun lah! Talking about being secure in one&#8217;s faith&#8230;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s frightening is they come across as narrow-minded, and with as blinkered an eye-view as any fundamentalist of whatever religion out there. </p>
<p>But tell them this, and they splutter and spew and get upset.</p>
<p>As I said, talk about being secure in one&#8217;s faith&#8230;</p>
<p>These fundamentalist atheists&#8230; someone should write an article on this actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Kee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently propositions go both ways.</description>
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		<title>By: Lau Sing Foo</title>
		<link>http://www.themicahmandate.org/2008/12/the-unforgiveable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Lau Sing Foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother LCK,

Thanks for the enlightening notes on the TR. I do appreciate your kindness.
I resolved to leave it to you and other textual scholars to decide the priority of the various extant manuscripts. I am hardly proficient in Greek, much much less a textual critic.

Common sense informs me that the idea of &#039;an eternal sin&#039; is a strange idea. I have not come across the same idea in the rest of the Bible. A sin is an act of transgressing against the law of God. An act of man in time can&#039;t possibly constitute an eternal sin. Such an temporal act in time may incur a consequence that is eternal. This may sounds simplistic... but make sense to me.

The idea of an judgment that is eternal makes plenty of sense, as the same is spoken of in many other places. Scriptures is its own infallible interpreter.

Thanks for the witness from Josephus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother LCK,</p>
<p>Thanks for the enlightening notes on the TR. I do appreciate your kindness.<br />
I resolved to leave it to you and other textual scholars to decide the priority of the various extant manuscripts. I am hardly proficient in Greek, much much less a textual critic.</p>
<p>Common sense informs me that the idea of &#8216;an eternal sin&#8217; is a strange idea. I have not come across the same idea in the rest of the Bible. A sin is an act of transgressing against the law of God. An act of man in time can&#8217;t possibly constitute an eternal sin. Such an temporal act in time may incur a consequence that is eternal. This may sounds simplistic&#8230; but make sense to me.</p>
<p>The idea of an judgment that is eternal makes plenty of sense, as the same is spoken of in many other places. Scriptures is its own infallible interpreter.</p>
<p>Thanks for the witness from Josephus.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Singam, Bob Kee,

Spare us your high horses. 

Some comments here are not irrelevant. They challenge your very belief in the existence of god, of Jesus Christ and the validity of the Bible. You guys have to establish such propositions, not the non-believers. And if you are unable to do so, then what you say about god, the world, non-believers are irrelevant to non-believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Singam, Bob Kee,</p>
<p>Spare us your high horses. </p>
<p>Some comments here are not irrelevant. They challenge your very belief in the existence of god, of Jesus Christ and the validity of the Bible. You guys have to establish such propositions, not the non-believers. And if you are unable to do so, then what you say about god, the world, non-believers are irrelevant to non-believers.</p>
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		<title>By: Singam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Singam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

It is not just this article but practically every article in MT that attracts irrelevant or frivolous comments. This is merely a reflection of the scholarship of the average Malaysian.

Furthermore, the opportunity to make anonymous comments is a new freedom that the people are enjoying. So they are letting fly with everything they have (or don&#039;t have).

They are best ignored. Otherwise, we only add to the noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>It is not just this article but practically every article in MT that attracts irrelevant or frivolous comments. This is merely a reflection of the scholarship of the average Malaysian.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the opportunity to make anonymous comments is a new freedom that the people are enjoying. So they are letting fly with everything they have (or don&#8217;t have).</p>
<p>They are best ignored. Otherwise, we only add to the noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kee</title>
		<link>http://www.themicahmandate.org/2008/12/the-unforgiveable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the comments here and at &lt;a href=&quot;http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/15975/84/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Malaysia Today&lt;/a&gt;, I wonder how many actually bothered to read the article before commenting. Most of the comments (esp. in MT) are totally out of topic and miss the main point of this article.

The fact that the article was written primarily for a Christian audience seems to also have been missed by a lot of folks. Apparently intolerance is both alive and well outside the Church as well.

Then again, I must say that Peter Young may have actually succeeded in being pithy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the comments here and at <a href="http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/15975/84/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Malaysia Today</a>, I wonder how many actually bothered to read the article before commenting. Most of the comments (esp. in MT) are totally out of topic and miss the main point of this article.</p>
<p>The fact that the article was written primarily for a Christian audience seems to also have been missed by a lot of folks. Apparently intolerance is both alive and well outside the Church as well.</p>
<p>Then again, I must say that Peter Young may have actually succeeded in being pithy <img src='http://www.themicahmandate.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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