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	<title>Comments on: What Decides the Difference between Caning and Islamic Caning?</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christian bible also appears to advocate spanking to correct a person (See Proverbs).  Spanking is a fairly accurate description of what a Syariah whipping constitutes and in former times, ecclesiastical courts could administer light corporal punishment in the Syariah manner.  Also this process applied in places such as monasteries, where it would be applied with a small stick, or in convents, where a cloth strap or miniature cloth based &quot;cat of 3 tails&quot; applied by means of a light flick of the wrist was the standard penalty.  As is obvious, the intention is not to cause a lot of physical pain, only very little, but to serve purely as a means of correction, the pain mainly being in the form of shame.  So really Syariah is no different from our own former ecclesiastical penalties.  In short, it is a symbolic punishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian bible also appears to advocate spanking to correct a person (See Proverbs).  Spanking is a fairly accurate description of what a Syariah whipping constitutes and in former times, ecclesiastical courts could administer light corporal punishment in the Syariah manner.  Also this process applied in places such as monasteries, where it would be applied with a small stick, or in convents, where a cloth strap or miniature cloth based &#8220;cat of 3 tails&#8221; applied by means of a light flick of the wrist was the standard penalty.  As is obvious, the intention is not to cause a lot of physical pain, only very little, but to serve purely as a means of correction, the pain mainly being in the form of shame.  So really Syariah is no different from our own former ecclesiastical penalties.  In short, it is a symbolic punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s put this in perspective: 

1. The caning as it applies in this case comes under Malaysian Syariah Court laws -- the Islamic courts that watch over Muslim citizens, so to speak. This is not the same as corporal punishment caning, which is administered by Federal courts. The difference between the two punishments is simple: one is meant to cause pain, while the other is meant to humiliate. The description of the cane here is the cane used in corporal punishment. The cane used in Syariah caning is little more than a stick, and the actual caning itself is little more than a flick of the wrist rather than a full-out whip. As I said, the intention here is to humiliate the offender, rather than cause him or her pain. 

2. Under the aforesaid Syariah laws, Muslims may not consume alcohol. Regular laws could not care less, however. Malaysia is a clubbing paradise. 

Kartika is simply unlucky enough to be a minor celebrity that the powers that be have decided to use as a case study to deter other potential offenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s put this in perspective: </p>
<p>1. The caning as it applies in this case comes under Malaysian Syariah Court laws &#8212; the Islamic courts that watch over Muslim citizens, so to speak. This is not the same as corporal punishment caning, which is administered by Federal courts. The difference between the two punishments is simple: one is meant to cause pain, while the other is meant to humiliate. The description of the cane here is the cane used in corporal punishment. The cane used in Syariah caning is little more than a stick, and the actual caning itself is little more than a flick of the wrist rather than a full-out whip. As I said, the intention here is to humiliate the offender, rather than cause him or her pain. </p>
<p>2. Under the aforesaid Syariah laws, Muslims may not consume alcohol. Regular laws could not care less, however. Malaysia is a clubbing paradise. </p>
<p>Kartika is simply unlucky enough to be a minor celebrity that the powers that be have decided to use as a case study to deter other potential offenders.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by boblskee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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